Gay Marriage?
Anyone feel free to chime in but I am curious what Colpat thinks of gay marriage, legalities and otherwise.
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No purpose, then no method of determining if something is right or wrong. No purpose, no baseline comparable to 1+1=2 is possible. I'm still on topic of Gay Marriage searching for a starting point....
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On this AOK Debate board you posed a question "Does Objective Morality Exist?" and posted the following: "So I was trying to explain to some theists how I view morality as an atheist. I tried to...
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I agree that I exist and I will assume you exist (although claims certainly have been made here to the contrary ) If there is an objective purpose for us to exist I don't know what it is or who could...
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colpat7 wrote: Homosexual behavior is just one of many kinds of sexual perversion. All sexual perversion is destructive to society. So if Nate and his lovely wife (or me and my lovely wife) are in a...
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colpat7 wrote: Laws are the rules established so that ALL citizens can live and work together. The only question is whose or what moral values will we establish. Since our nation was founded on...
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You asked "Who among the founders claimed that our nation was founded on principles which are uniquely Christian?" It is not important what any founder claimed. It is important what our founding...
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The question is: "Is there an absolute purpose?" The possible answers are "Yes" "No" "I don't know" Then under "I don't know" could be "we can not know" or "we just don't...Read More
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Who defines "perverted"? I can see how someone might rationally claim that any sex act that couldn't result in procreation is perverted. I wouldn't agree however as I don't think every act we...
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Laws are the standards we all are obligated to obey. Laws are necessary for us to live and work together peacefully. In the USA it is right to drive your car on the right-hand side of the road. Even...
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so what? many laws are stupid, wrong, illogical, ill-conceived, even evil. The civil code is not represent an ultimate morality anymore than anything else.
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The perversion post was in response to tergiversant's question of sodomy by husband and wife. Your response: "so what? many laws are stupid, wrong, illogical, ill-conceived, even evil. The civil code...
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This just gets back to the idea of what is a basis for morality. I've said before that increasing joy & decreasing suffering is a nice general guideline. Live by the golden rule whenever you can,...
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We decide whether something is right or wrong by comparing it to what was it's intended use, function, role, aim or goal If it has no use, function, role, aim, goal, intention and the like then it is...
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Happiness does not depend on others. Happiness is when ones needs/expectations are met or exceeded. Happiness depends on what Happens. You can improve situation/circumstances or lower...
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colpat7 wrote: You asked "Who among the founders claimed that our nation was founded on principles which are uniquely Christian?" It is not important what any founder claimed. It is important what our...
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The last paragraph of "The Declaration of Independence" reads: We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the...
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The declaration united the states solely in the sense that they declared it together. They were in no sense bound together by a new government at that point, hence the need to draft articles of...
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colpat7 wrote: The last paragraph of "The Declaration of Independence" reads: I'm still trying to understand what Jefferson's view of who wrote the Bible has to do with anything. You are the one...
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I am not claiming the founders wanted to use the Bible as a guide to national morality. I am citing the official documents and can cite many of the founders and presidents official records, public and...
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